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[edit] Super Historians

What makes a historian "super." I can think of several who are very important in the field of the crusades alone. Joshua Prawer and Johnathon Riley-Smith seem obvious. Robert Chazen has made great contributions in the field of Jewish history. W.G. Godfrey, Ian Mckay, David Frank and Bumsted, all seem "super" in the field of Canadian History. I would argue this: "The consistent development of new fields and sub-fields has led to the demise of the so called "Super" historians like Gibbon and Ranke, and given rise to a new more specialized group of academics." Or something like that.MedievalScholar 18:45, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

That entire "super historian" bit is pretty silly. "There has always been a class of..." Maybe it's just me, but all that section did was make me laugh a whole lot. It should probably be deleted, unless the author of the book that was cited actually had a good point to make - and in that case the section should be rewritten. Aibara 00:55, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow, this article is SOOO POV it isn't funny.

Whiggish analysis? Sounds like it was written by a liberal. To much discussion on the question of "what is history" then "what is a historian". Benkenobi18 (talk) 19:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

How about "super plumbers" or "super bankers"? What it really means is "ones I've heard of" and it betrays ignorance. --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 23:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Twentieth-century developments

This sections reads like a celebration of the shift from history as a literary pursuit to history as an instrument of cultural-marxist propaganda. True, this is the main twentieth-century development in history, but it bears describing not celebrating. —joeFriday— ^{talk}  16:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I think I did a pretty decent job cleaning that up and at least restoring some semblance of a professional tone to it. Let me know what you think. --Grahamdubya (talk) 00:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)